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Interview de Nathalie Dusoulier par W. Boyd Rayward en 2000
Construction de l'INIST
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Le texte qui suit est une traduction de la fin d'un ouvrage réalisé par le Chemical Heritage Foundation[1] (Centre d'histoire de la chimie).
L'ensemble est une interview de Nathalie Dusoulier mené par W. Rayward à Nice en 2000.
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Construction de l'INIST
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- Dusoulier
- Je lui ai dit[2] : « Très bien, après le weekend, je vous écrirai » Then he said, “Oh, you know, you have to do it.” I said, “Yes, sure. I’m interested.” He said, “Because, you know, n'oubliez pas, vous étes en détachement —” I said, “Is that a way of threatening me? If I won’t be good, they won’t continue my secondment?” And I told him, “Oh, s'il vous plait, pas de chantage avec moi, car je peux rester aux Nations Unies aussi longtemps que je le veux.”And, of course, in CNRS, you have to stay until sixty-five. “I can stay until sixty-two, anyway, and you can stay two years more. You know, considering the money I’m getting here, I will have more money staying three years less in CNRS than two years more.” [laughter]
Départ des Nations Unies
- Dusoulier
- He said, “No, that was not what I was trying to do.” I said, “All right.” Then he left. I showed him a little bit of what we were doing. After the weekend, I wrote thirty-two pages of comments on this thing. There were a lot of crazy things I could not understand. And I said that. Then I never heard about anything. Because there were problems in Geneva, the Comité Diplomatique said they didn’t want to pay any more money for the library because there were big problems there. The librarian said, “Over my dead body. There will be no computers in the library.” Finally, they negotiated that I could go to Geneva. I had almost finished my automation in New York, and I moved to Geneva. I was happy to move back to Geneva because my kids were in France. I was a little bit lonely. I went back to Geneva and began working. You cannot believe what Geneva was like. There were rooms full of books. If you opened the door, you just had to run very fast because, otherwise, everything was going to fall on you. [laughter] It was terrible. I started buying computers, doing automation, putting things in order in Geneva.
- One day, two years later, I had a call. “I’m the secretary of the director of CRNS. He wants you to come tomorrow to see him.” I said, “Look, lady, [laughter] I am not working for you. The UN is paying me, and I just cannot. Again, it is during the General Assembly.” [laughter] She said, “Yes. So, when can you come?” I said, “I can come on Saturday.” Then I went on Saturday. It was a big room with the director of CNRS, Goéry Delacôte, the director of information, and the chief of personnel of CNRS. They said, “We were very happy about the comments you did,” et cetera. It happened in forty-five minutes. I was thinking, “They didn’t ask me to come from Geneva to listen to how they were happy about the report that I did.”
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- They said, “Do you know why we have called you?” I said, “No, I have no idea.” “Well, because we want you to take over the INIST.”
- Then, because I was so shocked, I asked a stupid question. I said, “But, I work for the UN and I have no intention of leaving. I have just renewed my contract for the next two years. What happened to Mr. Jakobiac?” He was supposed to take over INIST. I heard, during the two years, that this guy was in charge of INIST.
- As soon as I asked the question, I knew that it was stupid because then they said, “Non, cela n’a pas marché; it didn’t work,” et cetera. I was a little bit surprised. They said, “We want you to start immediately.” I said, “Are you joking? I just, six months ago, came from New York. I cannot just leave the UN.” They said, “We are going to get someone to replace you.”
- I said, “Look, there was a story in New York. The director of personnel didn’t want me to go to Geneva. Then Geneva said, ‘We cannot do without you. It’s very important,’ et cetera. There was a battle for me to go to Geneva. The director of the Geneva office is not going to accept that I’m being replaced just like that.” They said, “Then, we will find two people.” [laughter] “All right.”
Kofi Annan
Les fondations de l'INIST
En route pour Nancy, France
Recrutement du personnel
Voir aussi
- Notes
- ↑ Le Chemical Heritage Foundation a fusionné en 2015 avec le Life Sciences Foundation pour devenir le Science History Institute.
- ↑ La coupure ne permet pas de savoir précisément qui est l'interlocuteur de Nathalie Dusoulier. La suite de l'entretien laisse à penser qu'il s'agit d'un membre de la Direction Générale du CNRS.
