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<sb:comment>(2 vols, Dublin)</sb:comment>
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<sb:maintitle>Irish Geography</sb:maintitle>
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<ce:textref>C. Doherty, The monastic town in early medieval Ireland, in Clarke and Simms,
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<ce:label>[6]</ce:label>
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<ce:textref>L. Swan, Monastic proto-towns in early medieval Ireland: the evidence of aerial photography, plan analysis and survey, in Clarke and Simms,
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<ce:textref>Indeed, it is Dr Graham who is guilty of exaggeration, as when he adverts to “the existence of at least 300 Irish boroughs, a total far in excess of that for either Wales or Scotland”: Graham, who is guilty of exaggeration, as when he adverts to “the existence of at least 300 Irish boroughs, a total far in excess of that for either Wales or Scotland”, 11. This figure represents the number of places with evidence of burgage tenure, three-quarters of which were never genuine towns: J. Bradley, Planned Anglo-Norman towns in Ireland, in Clarke and Simms,
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425. As we have emphasized, the words “borough” and “town” should not be used as synonyms and lists of boroughs should not be equated with lists of towns: Clarke and Simms, Towards a comparative history of urban origins, 692.</ce:textref>
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<sb:comment>fig. 175 (the dioceses of Chester, Hereford and Worcester)</sb:comment>
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